Catskills - Sullivan County - Ulster County Real Estate -- Catskill Farms Journal

Old School Real estate blog in the Catskills. Journeys, trial, tribulations, observations and projects of Catskill Farms Founder Chuck Petersheim. Since 2002, Catskill Farms has designed, built, and sold over 250 homes in the Hills, investing over $100m and introducing thousands to the areas we serve. Farms, Barns, Moderns, Cottages and Minis - a design portfolio which has something for everyone.

Tuesday, September 3, 2024

Cottage 45 ReSale

Cottage 45, with the post-sale addition of an artists studio and a lot of good looking landscaping, is being resold after who knows how many years of graceful living - is it 10? Hard to say without digging deep into the archives. But it's been awhile. Asking $650+/-, we sold it for low $300's. It's on an amazing piece of land that fronts a large creek/stream. On 12 acres. It's such a snapshot of how hard we used to work for how little money, perfecting our craft, making a living. And then wham, pandemic fueled NYC migration to the Catskills, and we were able to monetize it, since we had the team and the engine all tuned up.

I forgot how busy we actually got, since it's been 4 years and it's hard to remember that it hasn't always been this way. Well, in some ways it has, since even though we were building less, our team was capable of less. Now our team is capable of more, and we are building more. And soon, we will be building less, but our team is capable of more, which will present some difficult man-power decisions.

I hope they get their price. Looking at what's available in Barryville for between $450k - $650k, and this house is definitely the most attractive of the lot. When we started building cottages in 2006, the idea was to provide a lower cost option of getaways without sacrificing land quality or build quality. Only way to do that is a smaller home, and some counterintuitive market ideas that there was a market for 2 bedroom homes. Ideas that formulated by talking with my perspective clients, and hearing what they were saying, many times they were unaware of market insights they were giving me. Talk to enough people, put in the time, ears perked and listening and before you know it, you have information others don't.

These long-held homes that hit the market gives me a lot of nostalgia for the journey of Catskill Farms. One thing that has been true, among many, is my uncompromising ability to find good land for good homes.

Wednesday, August 28, 2024

Day in the life...

Thursday - Saturday morning in Orlando to watch my son’s JV football game.  Their team organizes a trip down there every 2 years or so for a fun week of fun and football.  Then to Raleigh NC to visit my nephew then back home on Sunday to prep for the week ahead. My pickleball skillset has accelarated.

My prep for the week includes continuing to complete a pre-closing checklist for the sale of $2m worth of Olivebridge, Ulster County NY real estate, homes 6 and 7 in our 9 home project.  The other two homes, and another 2 in Sullivan County are being built and completed on ‘spec’, without a buyer lined up or in this case, even without a buyer sought until the homes are complete.  It’s a boss move, keeping them secret, since it takes significant financial wherewithal, which we got.

I know of at least two ‘competitors’, or copy cats, or ‘imitation is the highest form of flattery’ projects, and I’m sure there are more, that are flaming out with lackluster or actually zero sales - one in Callicoon, and the other in Stone Ridge.  The Stone Ridge property I came very close to buying and it would have been a great project and checked a lot of my boxes - already subdivided, in a good town, good screening between houses - but some of the engineering hidden in the footnotes and small print were just too much of a variable for my tastes so I passed, but was non-plussed and had a serious FOMA case when this other group bought it.

But by not buying it, I was available for the next opportunity in Olivebridge, and that one worked out well for me.  As a business person, risk-taker, business owner, speculator - what you don’t do is as important as what you do do.  You quickly forget about the ones you pass on, but something can tickle the chords of recollection and you can remember that what you don’t pursue - be a piece of land, a deal, a person, a problem - is critical to long term survival.

I remember when I started Ashokan Acres, an article was being written about it and made it seem like a sure thing - I assured the writer it was anything but, and listed the failed or struggling projects I knew about, but if you’re not in the game, you don’t realize the struggle.  And since we have such a track record of getting it done and monetizing our efforts I guess it’s sort of assumed we will achieve the goals of the project - which I guess in a way is a bit of a sure bet at this point in my speculating career - but still - hat would be dangerous, since few people make it through a career in speculating without going bust - like the old adage that ‘there are only 2 types of motorcycle riders - those that have laid their bike down and skinned their legs up, and those that will.”  2 types of real estate speculators - those that have gone bust and those that will.

We got two million dollars of real estate closing in the next 2 weeks, and 4 homes being built buyer-less that will be for sale next year. Shifting gears, evaluating the Catskills housing landscape, filtering the information and delivering a prognosis like Ai wishes it could - 

Starting to sort out what 2025 will look like. What it won't look like is moving as fast as I can, building as much as our capacity will allow.

Sunday, August 18, 2024

New Rules for Realtors

I appreciate the work of a professional the much as the next guy, but no industry compensates mediocre performance more fully than the monopoly that was the real estate industry. There was literally no compensation differentiating between good skill sets and bad skill sets, between experience and inexperience, and there was little to no room to negotiate their fees, regardless of the assertions of the real estate players who claim 'that all fees are negotiable' (especially if you don't want anyone to show your home or you want to get silent black-listed from the collusive activities among all the real estate companies.)

Nobody should be paid $60,000 for answering a phone call, unlocking some doors, and showing up at the closing table. There is a value there, but because of the wink and nod collusion in the industry, it's not valued appropriately.

Here's a Axios article - Subtitled - "Mediocre real estate agents are out".

The unaffordability of using 6% commission based agents forced us in 2005 to sell our own houses, because our profit margins couldn't support a 6% payout on sales price, not profits - where agents who unlocked the door would get paid more than our years worth of effort. We actually are one of the few firms in the country that can claim the vertical integration of development, design, build and sell effort (more accurately, 'successful effort'). Over at Ashokan Acres, only 1 of 9 came through an agent, and that was a suspect arrangement that seemed more like friends or colleagues- 1 with a real estate license - working in tandem to profit from my efforts. So the buy side being eliminated from the commission would eliminate that type of shenanigans.

My guess is this article is right on - different compensation scheme, less shitty real estate agents hoping for that 1 or 2 sells a year for augmented income, more business at lower rates for the ones left standing. That makes sense to me, since to be honest, there are more poor performing realtors than professionals. No other industry compensates the same no matter what the skill level is, no matter the region being served, no matter what the sales prices is v. effort required to complete the task.

Thursday, August 15, 2024

Catskill Modular Pools launches

Well, it's done. I'm supposed to be decelerating and there we go launching a new business (and buying some more land in Kerhonkson, and getting a few houses started in Sullivan County). This modular container pool thing just seemed like to good of a fit for what I know of the upstate homebuyer to let it go uninvestigated, and once a entrepreneur-minded person sinks his teeth into an opportunity, well, lets just say, it's a slippery slope indeed.

So check them out, vetted the distributor/creator, bought one myself, had it shipped and now we are installing it a spec home in Olivebridge NY. The process thus far has been what I had hoped and the idea that you can have this thing installed in a day, and be swimming within 2 weeks is pretty fantastic.

The plug and play attribute - meaning all the systems - water heater, filtration, skimmers, electric are all set up, and you just bring the juice/gas from the house and it's ready to go.

The ability to add spa seating, jacuzzi area, and even windows into the container make them versatile without being onerous in the decision-making column. All the mechanicals are included and ready for a plug and play hook up.

Fun article in the Washington Post about Bungalows with great vintage photos that we borrowed the style for a pool company. It's an interesting read for a Catskill-ite because since it's not the regional NY Times which assumes a generic knowledge of the Catskills and it's past, the Post has to put the area in historical and geographic context.

Bungalow Colonies

Charles Petersheim, Catskill Farms (Catskill Home Builder)
At Farmhouse 35
A Tour of 28 Dawson Lane
Location
Rock & Roll
The Transaction
The Process
Under the Hood
Big Barn
Columbia County Home
Catskill Farms History
New Homes in the Olivebridge Area
Mid Century Ranch Series
Chuck waxes poetic...
Catskill Farms Barn Series
Catskill Farms Cottage Series
Catskill Farms Farmhouse Series
Interviews at the Farm ft. Gary
Interviews at the Farm ft. Amanda
Biceps & Building
Catskill Farms Greatest Hits
Construction Photos
Planned It
Black 'n White
Home Accents at Catskill Farms, Part 2
Home Accents at Catskill Farms, Part 1